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作者: amell 時間: 5-1-2009 18:29 標題: 新手問氣體名稱

猛將係咩類型氣？

紅氣、綠氣又係咩？

舉下例吖，有咩氣……邊隻勁同邊隻比較廢……邊隻對槍無咁傷

作者: louisli 時間: 5-1-2009 18:36

猛將係top gas
紅氣個罐係紅色，所以叫紅氣
綠氣係134a，比較環保，所以叫綠氣

以力來講
22>紅氣>top gas>綠氣

最唔傷槍係綠氣，但就唔多夠力，所數人會用top gas

有錯請指教~

作者: amell 時間: 5-1-2009 18:46

多謝指教！無限感激！

作者: 潛陣水 時間: 5-1-2009 18:49

綠氣唔係甲烷黎架咩,日本果隻先叫134a wo好似.
youtube睇,greengas係燒得著果隻丫嘛

作者: auhokan 時間: 5-1-2009 19:19

仲有紅氣係有2隻的
一隻係1600,一隻係2200
2200係勁d的

作者: Elf 時間: 5-1-2009 21:08

green gas其實就係top gas. 134A係(好似)得marui有出.

作者: learngod86 時間: 5-1-2009 21:11

仲有隻台灣134a...$5x

作者: 桸藍 時間: 5-1-2009 21:56

HFC 134a ??

作者: westdog 時間: 5-1-2009 22:06 標題: 回復 8# 的帖子

是的~

作者: andy53120569 時間: 5-1-2009 23:38

我仲聽過12氣同22氣..
尼兩種氣相等而家既咩氣??
點解會叫12同22?
壓力既單位??

作者: gtoray 時間: 5-1-2009 23:48

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原帖由 andy53120569 於 5-1-2009 23:38 發表
我仲聽過12氣同22氣..
尼兩種氣相等而家既咩氣??
點解會叫12同22?
壓力既單位??

係啊
12氣同22氣係以前氣動槍主道時候用
相等而家既 134a 同紅氣2200

作者: Hkpolice-Psu 時間: 5-1-2009 23:52

u may have a look of this
http://www.civiliangunner.com/newbie/06.htm

作者: 潛陣水 時間: 6-1-2009 17:49

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原帖由 Elf 於 5-1-2009 21:08 發表
green gas其實就係top gas. 134A係(好似)得marui有出.

唔係呀,力都差幾個位啦
化學成份都好唔同

作者: Sacred 時間: 6-1-2009 23:46

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原帖由 Elf 於 5-1-2009 21:08 發表
green gas其實就係top gas. 134A係(好似)得marui有出.

wrong
134a is a type of HFC...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-134a

作者: Elf 時間: 7-1-2009 00:06 標題: 回復 14# 的帖子

Green Gas is the propellant typically used to drive Gas Blow Back Airsoft guns, consisting of the gas propane with silicone oil added.

source of information : Wikipedia, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_gas>

作者: Elf 時間: 7-1-2009 00:14 標題: 回復 13# 的帖子

topgas同green gas一樣力, 化學成份都一樣

作者: Sacred 時間: 7-1-2009 00:26

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原帖由 Elf 於 7-1-2009 00:06 發表
Green Gas is the propellant typically used to drive Gas Blow Back Airsoft guns, consisting of the gas propane with silicone oil added.

source of information : Wikipedia,

then?

i'm talking about this sentence

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134A係(好似)得marui有出.

134a is HFC(HydroFluoroCarbon) that primarily used as a refrigerant, not primarily for gun
as i know, some factory in HK also supplies 134a for refrigerant, like this:
http://www.hkoxygen.com/products.asp?lang=en&id=426

[ 本帖最後由 Sacred 於 7-1-2009 00:46 編輯 ]

作者: Elf 時間: 7-1-2009 01:06 標題: 回復 17# 的帖子

did i deny the fact that 134A is HFC?
maybe we have misunderstood each other.
i thought u were saying ... "green gas is HFC"
and you thought i was saying green gas = 134a.

[ 本帖最後由 Elf 於 7-1-2009 01:07 編輯 ]

作者: Sacred 時間: 7-1-2009 02:04

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原帖由 Elf 於 7-1-2009 01:06 發表
did i deny the fact that 134A is HFC?
maybe we have misunderstood each other.
i thought u were saying ... "green gas is HFC"
and you thought i was saying green gas = 134a.

i nerver said green gas is HFC
and i nerver thought green gas is HFC...

i did not talking about green gas, mate
134a and green gas is not same
I just want u to know 134a is a refrigerant
and marui nerver been the only brand of 134a

作者: Elf 時間: 7-1-2009 02:59

first thing you said i was wrong.
I assume that means you're saying both point
i)green gas其實就係top gas;
ii)134A係(好似)得marui有出.
are wrong.

i finally get what you were trying to correct me that
134a is a universal refrigerants and is widely manufactured by numerous parties

作者: Sacred 時間: 7-1-2009 03:10

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原帖由 Elf 於 7-1-2009 02:59 發表
first thing you said i was wrong.
I assume that means you're saying both point
i)green gas其實就係top gas;
ii)134A係(好似)得marui有出.
are wrong.

i finally get what you were trying to correct ...

u got the point

作者: Steady 時間: 7-1-2009 06:57

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原帖由 andy53120569 於 5-1-2009 23:38 發表
我仲聽過12氣同22氣..
尼兩種氣相等而家既咩氣??
點解會叫12同22?
壓力既單位??

其實12 和 22都是"雪種"的名稱而不是什麽壓力既單位:
12: Dichlorodifluoromethane (R-12), usually sold under the brand name Freon-12, is a chlorofluorocarbon halomethane,
22: Chlorodifluoromethane or difluoromonochloromethane is a hydrochlorofluorocarbon (HCFC). It is better known under its code names of HCFC-22, R-22, Genetron 22 or Freon 22,

但因為含有破壞大氣層的物質所以停用了.

[ 本帖最後由 Steady 於 7-1-2009 07:03 編輯 ]

作者: 潛陣水 時間: 7-1-2009 21:51

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原帖由 Elf 於 7-1-2009 00:14 發表
topgas同green gas一樣力, 化學成份都一樣

topgas同green gas一樣力?

原裝slide打topgas咪好正

題外話: 上其他網d人好似話topgas係加左紅氣既. 重有,唔知topgas個灌度寫既成份係咪昆水既呢=]
不過可以sure既係,topgas臭greengas好多,反而134a同greengas冇味

[ 本帖最後由 jh333233 於 7-1-2009 21:54 編輯 ]

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