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原帖由 kornhill401 於 14-8-2019 17:12 發表

WOW!剛上網得知,呢個牌子的SAA,最貴果支SAA玩具槍,價錢超過1百萬日本YEN.
十分期待樓主的Rampant Classic 的 SAA 分享.
Rampant Classic 早期的模型槍是由大名鼎鼎六研 (Rocken) 的設計師六人部登負責設計, 其超高水準的出品受到美國Colt 的青睞,授以日本市場的獨家 license。Rampant Classic 只出 Colt SAA,真槍數, 部分型號的塑料素材加入了高比率的鎢合金, 做出了稱為 Hammer Locklite 的超高比重。 佢哋每支槍都係限量生產, 支支精品, 有齊證書編號,個人覺得收藏價值頗高。

下面兩支分別係 2nd gen 3" Sheriff's model (限量 180支) 及 5.5" Nickel (限量1000支 [1000支都叫限量 ) 。支 Sheriff's model 只係一般的 Locklite, 並非超高比重, 但拿上手weight balance 一流, 部分surface 做咗泛藍光處理,配以木 grip 。支 Nickel 則是 ABS的,較輕, 但一樣好靚。

[img]IMG_20190817_010709_439 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_010943_559 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_011657_667 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_012051_667 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_011835_698 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_011048_924 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_011302_573 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_011944_190 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_010810_519 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_012145_858 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190817_011534_606 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 17-8-2019 02:19 編輯 ]

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我賣曬D相機鏡頭, 入模型槍, 騰空左個電子防潮箱, 特別喜愛的槍 就放入防潮箱擺藏, 唔怕潮濕

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MGC 係槍街的確唔多見, 呢支 .44 auto mag 更加少見!!

如果冇記錯, 早期的Marushin 及 Kokusai 都出過支金屬的, 當然就更加難找了。

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 17-8-2019 12:23 編輯 ]

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MGC (Model Gun Corporation)

http://www.newmgc.com/
http://modelgun.co.jp/

The oldest and most known modelgun manufacturer. Company was founded in 1959 as "Japan Modelgun Collection Association", changed the name to MGC in early 1980s. Initially MGC sold imported toyguns (Mattel, Hubley, Nichols) and worked on making them more realistic.

MGC was one of the first (beside Hudson) Japanese company to produce self-designed modelgun in 1962. In 1960s they have released a few unique steel-made models (MP40, Sten MkIII, Sterling). Their first employee (hired by founder and owner of MGC) and designer of most of the models was Tazuo (Tanio) Kobayashi.

In early 1960s MGC designed and manufactured modelguns that were sold under their own brands by other toygun shops, for example "INT" brand (later became Kokusai). Eventually MGC established their own brand "MGC BondShop", while other shops moved on to design and manufacture modelguns by themselves.

In late 1980s based on "Star Wars" popularity, MGC released translucent "SF" modelguns: Automag, Sig P210 and Sig Flash. They could not really be fired (quickly became opaque ;-) ), but allowed to show inner workings of models.

Over the years MGC (and Tanio Kobayashi) contributed many inventions to this hobby:
- mechanical action modelgun, using "Tanio action" or "slide action" where mechanical lever moves slide when trigger is pressed. This extremely simple design works surpisingly well.
- windup action modelgun, where M3A1 (undersized, made of steel) could be wound up first, and trigger press made bolt fly back and forth simulating full auto action.
- first working cap blowback design, with "BLK" cartridges (open type).
- improved cap blowback design with "CP-BLK", where piston helps to use more cap energy. Today this is still probably the best cartridge type when it comes to efficiency.

Apart from modelguns, MGC designed and manufactured airsoft replicas, also introducing many new mechanisms such as the first pistol with internal gas tank and blowback function.

Unfortunately company went bankrupt in 1994. According to Tanio this was caused by the President losing interest in modelguns. Production was taken over by Taito, and later Shin Nihon Mokei (SNM), you can see these brands on some of the models released at the time. Some of MGC workers moved to work at KSC.

After some time company was reactivated as New MGC, and specialized in Colt 1911 variantes. New MGC continued production until 2007, when it was closed for the second time (?).

Surprisingly, in 2009, a few models were released to celebrate 50 years of MGC foundation: Colt 1911 variants and M31 shotgun. Announcement on MGC building says that production will cease on the 30th of April 2010.

http://mp40modelguns.forumotion. ... del-gun-corporation

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講咗咁多左輪, 輪到講下手槍。日本大部份的model gun手槍(包括左輪及長火),其實是cap gun,玩家在cap彈(彈頭有窿)裝入火藥粉,開槍後會發出“爆炸”聲,有blow back,跳殼等真槍動作。不過由於香港禁止使用火藥,所以本地玩家只可手拉滑架玩跳殼(都幾好玩架)。正由於model / cap gun 是以火藥粉而非gas作動力,所以操作跟真槍一樣,內裡結構亦非常接近真鐵,對追求忠實還原的玩家來說,是不二之選。

半自動手槍中我最喜歡M1911,其經典設計,真的百看不厭,難怪它從一戰服役至今,歷久不衰。但由於M1911有太多衍生型號、改裝型號,滑架又有多不勝數的不同 marking,而且除 Colt外,還有好幾家槍廠曾參與生產,所以要儲齊都幾頭痛,亦都好難做到。我唯有收窄範圍,以不同槍管尺寸、口徑、槍廠,再加上一些自己喜歡的marking,作為搜集收藏目標,但至今仍未集齊。

M1911模型槍,出得最多的是MGC,數最準最正的據說是六研(好貴)、Elan的都唔平、Hobby Fix 都有出(一樣唔平), 還有依家仲出緊的CAW,數算準,價錢相對中庸。

下面先來一支MGC 的M1911 Delta Elite。 Delta ELite 的特色是採用 10mm Auto 的子彈, 而非一般M1911所使用的 .45 ACP,仲有係grip上面佢獨有的三角紅色 logo。

[img]IMG_20190817_215130_539 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190812_135958_974 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190812_135836_658 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190812_135726_883 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190812_135640_769 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190812_140039_922 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 17-8-2019 22:46 編輯 ]

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師兄認錯人啦
而且我尼支 Delta Elite 絕對唔係天價 六研, Elan 個D先係 ,但我一支都無,等緊其他師兄分享 。

我大部份 model gun 都是一般價錢,除左上面blue左個支 Python 同一撻撻vintage jupiter 既SAA外。但甘多支前前後後加埋都真係幾傷荷包

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我 支Delta Elite 不是 .45 ACP彈 (cap 彈) ,是 10mm的。

不過Model Gun 一般都是cap gun, 原裝跟的都是彈頭有窿的 cap彈, 彈內裝火藥粉。 但日本也有一些model gun 是純粹供玩家把玩,不能發火的, 這種真正的model gun, 原裝跟的係彈頭冇窿的 dummy 彈 (彈內不能裝火藥粉),你所講的那種銅色圓頭彈, 應該就是這種dummy彈。 但也有一些玩家把原裝cap gun 槍管�堛漕滷�"針" 鋸短, 咁支槍就可以用另配的dummy 彈玩拋殼, 否則dummy彈因彈頭沒有窿 , 會被支針頂住,卡係槍管內, 拋唔到出嚟。

我哋香港玩家,不能玩火藥, 當然希望玩到更加像真可以玩拋dummy彈的 model gun。

我沒有MGC 的金杯 M1911, 不知道原本是 dummy版還是cap版 。只知 CAW的 gold cup national match 的 M1911也是 cap版。 師兄你嗰支MGC 國家金杯1911 當時是新買返來的還是二手的呢?

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 18-8-2019 18:37 編輯 ]

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下面是 MGC 的 Combat Commander。 Combat Commander是M1911的衍生型, 槍管長 4 1/4吋, 比 5吋 full size 的M1911短, 據講係畀唔多上前線的軍官用, 靈巧D。

我呢支木柄combat commander ,用 .38 Super 彈 (一般的都是 .45 ACP彈)。 原本是cap gun, 但上手改裝左, 可以玩dummy 彈。 圖片中的子彈, 就是實心圓頭的dummy彈,。

[img]IMG_20190818_191419_709 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_191735_623 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_191857_148 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_191955_362 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_192116_080 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_192224_399 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_192508_456 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190818_192702_058 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 20-8-2019 22:06 編輯 ]

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原帖由 kornhill401 於 19-8-2019 13:26 發表
我的1911'金杯'是全新在洗衣街某玩具模型店買的.
呢支玩具槍唯一的缺點,是刻字淺了一些.
299444
下圖是在網上找到的.
299445
cap彈與樓主的圖片有所不同.
我的cap彈是這一款的.
師兄你嗰支mgc金盃1911, 睇你圖片中的子彈, 都係彈頭有窿唔係實心的cap彈, 子彈盒也說是 cap blowback cartridges, 只是款式跟我的有別而已。

我請教過資深槍友, 當年mgc的m1911應該全部都係裝cap彈, 除非買家自行改裝再另配dummy彈。 只有其後CAW的M1911, 才有出原裝不發火裝dummy彈的M1911。

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 19-8-2019 18:21 編輯 ]

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尼支係 MGC 的 Remington M1911 UMC, 收佢返嚟係因為尼支真槍M1911 是一戰時期 Remington 生產的,非主流Colt所產,而且覺得滑架上的marking 幾靚。

下面是M1911 UMC 的info :

Brief info on the Remington M1911 UMC

On December 29, 1917, Remington UMC was given a contract for 150,000 M1911 pistols. Later the quantity was revised to 500,000 but Remington UMC only produced 21,677 guns, SN 1 – 21677, before WWI ended and the contract was cancelled.

The left sides of the slides were marked with Colt patent dates, the “Remington/UMC” logo arrayed in a circle and “Manufactured by/ Remington Arms UMC Co. Inc./ Bridgeport, Conn., U.S.A.” The left sides of the receivers bore the same “United States Property” markings found on the Colt and Springfield Armory M1911s.

Early production guns should have the "E" stamp on left side of trigger guard, bottom of main spring housing, and back of slide. “E.E.C.” is the mark of Edward E. Chapman who inspected 1911s at Remington in 1918 and 1919

https://www.mg-props.co.uk/M1911UMC.htm

上面條link係英國一間model gun shop 提供的資料, �堶惘酗ㄓ痐擖蜩odel gun 及真槍歷史背景的information

[img]IMG_20190819_184813_782 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_184437_387 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_184614_460 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_185921_985 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_185017_060 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_185143_922 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_185242_915 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190819_185341_908 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 19-8-2019 21:12 編輯 ]

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原帖由 yth 於 19-8-2019 14:21 發表
某年某月,打電話去深水埗福利查詢..請問有母MGC支GoldCup?姐姐答吾明,乜嘢高级!!,我重復MGC支金杯..她明白了,答我,e度無獎杯賣,這�婼瑼惆蒱珓洩�.....
不過 M1911 gold cup 又真係同獎盃有關, 姐姐話冇獎杯賣又錯唔曬 。Gold Cup 是為競賽而生的手槍,第一支Colt Gold Cup 早於50年代後期便已推出,具有多種為比賽需要而作出的enhancements,如可調節的寬觸trigger ,可調節的rear sight 等等。

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回覆 87# 的帖子

原來如此 ,多謝師兄的解說。

其實我對模型槍的認識非常有限, 只是本著那份passion, 膽粗粗在此出貼, 還需要各位師兄多些input甚至修正我的information, 我從中又可以學多D野 。

依師兄你所說, 咁相反嚟講, 是否catalog上沒有子彈圖示的槍, 即使換了槍管內的那條芯, 亦行唔到dummy 彈?

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 20-8-2019 22:01 編輯 ]

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講完MGC, 而家講下CAW 的M1911。 除了六研之外, 要算CAW M1911 的數最準, 最像真。 槍支的結構包括拆槍步驟同真槍一樣。拆MGC 的 1911,拉出鎖 slide粒 "的" ,把 slide退出, 之後就可以拆槍管。但 CAW同真槍一樣, 要先把槍咀鎖槍管個環鎖擰開,拿出件 parts,才進入退 slide環節,之後先可以拆槍管,這樣玩感覺同玩真野一樣。

真槍(=CAW) 拆解 :
https://youtu.be/A6oBRpbu3es

可惜我搵唔到MGC的拆槍片, 不過就係少左前段搞槍咀的步驟, 槍管是直接從後退出的。

下面兩支,木柄的是二戰軍版不發火配 dummy 彈的 M1911A1,而膠柄上有徽章的是cap 彈發火的 Gold Cup。

[img]IMG_20190820_170741_904 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_170706_160 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_170934_176 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_180935_415 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_181401_253 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_180710_615 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_171137_154 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[img]IMG_20190820_180444_760 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

Military Model 的靚 marking
[img]IMG_20190820_181140_768 by qw c, 於 Flickr[/img]

[ 本帖最後由 mikesham 於 20-8-2019 21:29 編輯 ]

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支金杯先有彈匣底片馬仔刻印, 軍版那支沒有。

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